and john fineplaid is the chief adviser to new york mayor michael bloomberg on policy and strategic planning. he joins us to talk about the mayor's campaign against illegal drugs. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you for being here. pam, first tell me about gabby giffords. she's taking on this initiative, you know, she's in favor of gun rights, so she's not extreme in any way. do you think that she will be able to get something done? is she the right person to help lead this cause? >> i can't think of anyone better to lead this cause. she's experienced gun violence, as i have, firsthand, and we know that the pain and the suffering is not only for the person that was shot, but their family, their community. gabby is absolutely the right voice to have in this discussion. >> after what happened to you in tucson, did you think that some kind of gun legislation would at least be introduced in congress? >> well, i certain hoped at least there would be a conversation. as we saw from the last presidential campaign, the world gun could not even be uttered. it seems that our e